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Discussion On Wild Bunch Dispatch Issue #61 Starts HERE At 6:30pm Mountain Time!

August 17, 2021

The Q&A portion of the Wild Bunch Dispatch will be held on this page from 6:30pm to 8pm (Mountain Time) today.  Any questions you might have on the 61st issue please post here and I will try to answer them to the best of my ability.  Some ground rules:

1)  Please stick to the subject matter of the newsletter.

2)  This is not a debate forum.  If you have some concerns I’m happy to address them, but I can’t get into a long circular debate while other people have questions.

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4)  Try to keep to one or two questions each time you write a post.  Please refrain from essay-long multi-question posts.  It is much appreciated. 

I will begin discussion at exactly 6:30pm Mountain time.  Looking forward to your questions and thoughts on the Wild Bunch Issue #61.  The next issue of the newsletter will be released on August 28th.  If you missed out on this discussion you can still subscribe for the next issue and participate.  For more information on how to subscribe, visit the link HERE.


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  • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 6:24 pm

    I live in a small rural area 1 hour east of Sacramento, CA and I work for the California Dept of Public Health – It is a true COVID nightmare. I will not, under any circumstances take the vaccine and am seeing that it is about time for me to move out of state. I have waited quite a while and I think I’m still holding on to the fact that our Governor may actually be recalled. Your article #61 talked about how it may be too late to move out of state. Considering I sold my house and have quite a bit of cash, is it ever really too late to move out of state? Also, living in California, it is hard for me to imagine that the whole country is not supportive of the vaccine and its accompanying passports. As you can imagine, Californians, and especially those I work with are extremely pro-vaccine. Are people in say, Montana, mostly against the vaccines? And are they vocal about it?

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 6:37 pm

      I actually think there is still time to move out of blue states or counties, but the window is closing fast. I suspect in around 6 months such a move might be impossible, if only because it will be difficult to find properties in areas where you would want to relocate. Also, leftist counties and states are like political and social bubbles. I recently traveled through Idaho, Oregon and Washington and I noticed that the closer you get to major leftist cities like Portland or Seattle, the more masks and propaganda there are. In Washington, Seattle was like a covid cult compound, but as I traveled into Eastern WA I noticed NO ONE was wearing masks and no businesses were demanding them. Same with Oregon. Idaho was completely clear of mask Nazis. In my area of Montana most people stopped following the mandates 3 months after the initial outbreak when everyone realized that covid is a nothing-burger. But people in Blue areas have been made to believe that the entire country is locked down and masked up and vaccinated….it’s simply not so.

      • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 6:45 pm

        Thank you for that Brandon. I’m going to see if our governor is recalled and make a decision after that. I have to admit that I would be walking away from a very high salary, but freedom is everything! Also, I have heard you talk a few times in your articles about folks forming communities and organizing at a local level. What does that look like exactly?

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          Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 6:53 pm

          It starts with people like you, organizing meeting in their community. Your best bet is to find a venue like a church or restaurant that is supportive and then announce a first meeting to discuss current events and the need to organize. You might get a handful of people, you might get a hundred, it’s impossible to know. But if you only get a few to show up, keep trying. The worse things get the more people will become interested in what you are doing and they will want to join.

        • Black Cat August 17, 2021 at 7:35 pm

          Myself and a few others, about 9 months ago had, had enough. I initially invited anyone I could think of as likely minded to my house. We shared our thoughts and concerns about were this country is heading.
          9 months later we rent out our local legion hall, hold monthly main meetings with Bi-monthly council meetings. We get together with a pot-luck meal and have created a town supported community garden, multiple events and preparedness courses and I’ve been invited to join my local town council. People want this, just put it out there.

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            Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:41 pm

            That is exactly what I’m talking about. Every time I hear someone say organization is not possible in their area, it’s because they never made the attempt in the first place.

          • Black Cat August 17, 2021 at 7:44 pm

            Amen Brother and you were one of the people who have inspired me over all these years, thank You!

    • Matt August 17, 2021 at 6:48 pm

      Kelly: I’m in Reno, so not far from you. I’ve been wondering the same thing over here. Nevada is not what it once was.

      Curious to your take per this discussion, though. Northern California is in many ways redder and more liberty-minded than most places. Plumas County comes to mind. It’s really, really red there. I’ve lived all over the West and Reno I call home. Reno has gone over to the dark side, if you will. I’m debating if it’s a lost cause here.

      So to Brandon & Kelly: A deep, deep red county (Plumas) in a deep deep blue state (California). What’s your takes? (Mind you, Plumas County is still very affordable and and absolutely beautiful. It’s a rare unspoiled gem in the world. It’s just that. It’s Californistan.)

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        Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 6:59 pm

        Better than staying put in a blue county. There are county sheriffs in CA that have defied the mandates before and they’ll do it again. If you can’t move to a red state, then a red county is your next best option.

        • Matt August 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

          Nevada’s erstwhile ways are not as bad as California’s. But Reno is worse than northern California. I keep wondering if, with the State of Jefferson movement, the Greater Idaho movement, that if the bulk of NorCal would actually be a great place to be during any future turmoil.

          Here’s my contention: the Jefferson areas are already going to be bastions of resistance. Would it be worthwhile to bank on that? A red hill in a valley of blue, if you will? Could you resist the fascism coming? Could you have a strong enough push to gain momentum and allies, ie, success? It comes down to this: If things go as bad as we think they may, do you want your kids there? Because that’s what it comes down to and as long as the gone-despot state still controls the things the state controls (Which is a lot), your children are at risk.

          Amigos, kids are everything in this. All my decision making is centered around this- can I raise my children to be God-loving, liberty-loving, et-al, without the dangerous shenanigans coming down the pike?

          Any thoughts there? I don’t have that answer. I’m looking for the answer.

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            Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:35 pm

            Again, it’s all about conservative organization, which we need to see a LOT more of in blue states. There are numerous counties in every blue state that are conservative controlled, time to start networking. The question is more about “who” they are going to send to try to force you to accept the mandates? If the local sheriff is on your side, then they don’t have much power in your county. If you form a militia, then they have even less power. Everyone’s families will be at some risk regardless; this is the way of things, defiance of tyranny requires risk. That said, community organization is the key. If you are not having regular meetings of liberty minded people in your area right now, you MUST start today.

      • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 7:06 pm

        I do live in a very red county (Amador County) and the 9th most conservative town in California. But it makes me wonder how red it is compared to places like Montana. We’re only 1 hour from Sacramento but it’s a whole different ball game here compared to there. Sacramento is a pit! The thing is that I could live here in this county forever and be happy….unless certain statewide mandates come in to play. But I keep remembering what Brandon said about the local sheriff – in that they play a big part in enforcing mandates, etc. But at the same time, if a job requires the vaccine, then I think it’s time to go. And if you can’t cross state lines, there’s really a problem! My best friend lives in Reno and she feels the same way you do. I keep wondering how our country got so bad, and then I realize that I’ve always known about the globalists, so why am I wondering at all?

        • Matt August 17, 2021 at 7:39 pm

          I’ll tell you that Plumas Co, and maybe Amador Co. as well, seem redder than Reno and southern Arizona (Two places I can attest to). But as this gets harder and harder, the walls kind of move in. If Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Arizona, the Dakotas all join up and say screw you, that might be a FANTASTIC place to be. The red county in a blue state will possibly be on its own. Isolated. That’s my debate. Why risk that when I can move to a community and plug in and instantly be supported statewide?

          Sacramento has so much potential. It can be rather beautiful there sometimes.

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            Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:43 pm

            There will never be a single red county isolated in a sea of blue. It simply doesn’t exist. That said, if you have the ability and the cash to move to a red state then go for it. Also, organization is required EVERYWHERE you go. Don’t expect to tap right into an existing group right after you have moved into an area. You have to earn your way into a community.

      • Catz21 August 21, 2021 at 7:47 pm

        Matt, I too live in Reno. I moved here 20 years ago from No. CA. It was a red state then. It went back to red with the last election, if the truth had been told. I believe our sheriff is a conservative. I’m on several Nevada FB groups. There are more people than you think that believe this is all malarkey. I meet them everywhere I go. I do not wear a mask to enter any business. Haven’t in months. No one questions it. It would be great to start a group to discuss what we can do to correct this mess. Do you have any ideas? Would you be interested in starting one?

    • Pita August 17, 2021 at 7:02 pm

      I’m in a similar situation as you, but in eastern NC. One hour east of Raleigh, heavy vaccine propaganda, all major colleges and universities requiring students be vaccinated, public school mask mandates in my county, and a $1M lottery for vaxxed adults with a $125k lottery for college money for 12-18 yo vaxxed kids. Concerts are requiring proof of vaccine. Businesses are beginning to require proof. My county is blue with a red sheriff who never enforced masks. Half of the people here are unmasked and ignore the mask required signs on business doors. We have a small homestead with animals and my husband just had his job “eliminated,” so he’s looking for another one. I told him to look out west. We’d have to sell the property and animals and greatly downsize, but I think it would be in our best interest to do so. Crazy thing is that the real estate market here is hot. People keep moving from the north east states.

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        Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:09 pm

        South Carolina seems to be pursuing legislation to protect against the mandates. That state or Tennessee are your closest havens. Though, if you have a red county nearby or your sheriff is solid then you might already be in a good position. The issue is organization of the community. You can’t rely on state or local governments alone, you need conservatives unified to fight back.

        • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 7:16 pm

          Brandon, have you written a past article on community organization? I’m wondering what the goals of such a group would be. What would the group’s “action items” be other than discussion?

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            Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

            Organization. Preparedness. Communications in the event of grid down, etc. Possibly forming a local militia as things get worse.

        • Pita August 17, 2021 at 7:41 pm

          Sheriff is solid, but up for re-election next year. A retired deputy has announced he will be running against our current sheriff and his platform is essentially “stop worrying about what the federal level is doing.”
          Yes, TN is definitely on our list for job hunting. NC has a serious uphill battle. The governor is in lockstep with the current DC administration and the head of medical in the state worked with Obama’s global initiative when it first started before she was offered her position here.

    • Frank August 17, 2021 at 8:40 pm

      Kelly, you may be fairly close to my location. If at this time you don’t feel like uprooting yourself, there are still some red counties and small towns that would welcome you. Some of us are not able to leave commiefornia, but would love to have people of like mind move in close to us and build a community.

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    Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 6:29 pm

    Discussion on Issue #61 is now open.

  • Greg B. August 17, 2021 at 6:47 pm

    Something I’ve been reading in the news lately is a few cities here in Texas are ignoring Governor Abbott’s ban on mask mandates by state, county and city official despite his threats of legal action. Naturally these are the leftist enclaves like Austin and Houston. And people are calling Abbott and Republicans and conservatives that support his ban hypocrites for being all for local governance but won’t let them impose mask mandates. I say those naysayers are a bunch of dumbf**ks for wanting the state to force them and others to wear mask when they can do that of their own free will. Not to mention what they’re doing is in violation of state law.

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 6:57 pm

      No government, whether city or state or federal, has the right to impose unconstitutional dictates on the public that violate their inherent rights. If cities were allowed to impose unconstitutional laws whenever they wanted then Jim Crow laws and segregation would still exist. These city governments need to be shut down and replaced by the people of Texas. I think there needs to be some large open carry and maskless marches on these areas to send a message.

  • Black Cat August 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    The short story here in Park County Colorado (just outside of Breckenridge) is generally the same as it has been for the last 2-3 years. Housing is insanely expensive, most of it is going to short term rentals, much of the working class is struggling to find anywhere to rent, never mind buy. the homes they were renting as long term are being sold and there are very few prospects available for them to find housing.
    I’m a small business owner and although things are starting to cool down a bit it’s still insane and we can’t keep up, we are booked out approximately 2 months (we provide septic service, inspections, repairs, etc. so that’s pretty busy for our type of services) other contractors like builders, etc. are booking into next year already.
    The amount of traffic and tourism here has just gotten crazier every year.

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:02 pm

      Montana is the same. All construction and maintenance services are booked at least a year in advance. If a construction company wanted to make bank, they would be smart to move to a red state like Idaho or Montana – People who are relocating need these services badly.

      • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 7:13 pm

        I hear some say that eventually the red states will be as bad as the blue states in terms of 100% vaccine compliance. If that were true, then it would have been pointless to spend all that money to move leaving all my friends, etc. What do you think Brandon, do you think the red states will get as bad as the blue states at some point in the future? For example, the federal govt. will pressure the red states to comply by withholding funding to the states?

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          Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm

          I don’t know who is saying that. Red states are full of conservatives who will not comply with the mandates, so you are always going to be better off surrounded by like-minded people rather than mindless covid zombie leftists. I’ve been saying for the past year that the federal government will try to take funding away from red states to make them comply, but it’s the PEOPLE that determine the outcome, not state governments.

          • Kelly August 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

            Yes, that’s exactly right. I need to remember that.

  • KYSteader August 17, 2021 at 7:10 pm

    I was surprised that you did not mention food production as a selective factor in determining where to locate to. In my area of Kentucky, I can start early spring crops under high tunnels in early March. I can harvest until late October. If hyperinflation gets as bad as I fear, the ability to grow and preserve food will become paramount. While my governor is an idiot, my legislature is solidly conservative. Both West Virginia and Kentucky offer extremely cheap land and low population density. Do you think food production should be a huge consideration?

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:20 pm

      Food production can be accomplished almost anywhere as long as you make the right preparations. For example, in my area of Montana growing is tough unless you know what you are doing. I live near a natural water source and have rain collection in case of drought. I also used raised beds because the normal soil is rocky and full of clay. Over time you can make bad soil good, so that is part of my long term plan, such as laying down mulch in areas with bad soil. In a few years time the soil underneath will be fertile. You also have to know what kinds of plants grow best in your climate. It’s all about preparation.

  • Greg B. August 17, 2021 at 7:30 pm

    An interesting thing I’ve noticed about leftist transplants from blue states is that if they do come into red states they’ll usually head towards the blue counties and cities and settle there. And progressives moving away from those areas either move about an hour away from home or go to another blue area. And it’s no coincidence that these blue areas tend to be where the states seats of power are located. So I believe the notion that progressives from out of state are moving to red states to turn them blue really comes from the fact that they simply tend to congregate near the centers of influence and tend to make the most noise where they know they’ll be heard.

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:39 pm

      Yes, the fear of a “blue invasion” into red states is highly overblown. They only ever move to already leftist areas of a state, or they move but stay close to their original cities or counties. They avoid red rural America at all costs. They HATE us, they are not going to spend time and money to relocate right next to us.

  • Charlie August 17, 2021 at 7:55 pm

    Is there a working link to the thermal guile suit webpage? The link I get directed to when I click on the advertisement on the front page is the old website.

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      Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:58 pm

      Contact me by email. Materials have been hard to get lately for the suits so I’m not sure if I can continue producing them.

    • 253045 August 19, 2021 at 5:23 pm

      “guile suit”. . .worn by lawyers. . .

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    Brandon Smith August 17, 2021 at 7:59 pm

    Discussion is now closed on Issue #61. Thanks to all those subscribers who participated. If you missed out on this issue or would like to subscribe to The Wild Bunch Dispatch to receive future issues, visit the subscription page HERE.

    Issue #62 will be released on August 28th.

  • Pita August 17, 2021 at 8:00 pm

    As an aside, there’s a group in Virginia putting together a class action law suit against Northam, DOE, HHS, school boards, and colleges over unlawful mandates regarding covid. It won’t change VIrginia, but I see that as a positive step.

  • Greg B. August 17, 2021 at 8:02 pm

    I think Texas is all set in the resource department. Almost every acre of land down here is privately owned and the only parts owned by the feds are the national parks, a few military bases and maybe some land around the southern border but that’s it. State government doesn’t own much land either. Farm and ranch land in the west, timber in the east and little to no interference from the feds in either area.

  • californiawoman August 17, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    I visited Tennessee a month ago and was ready to move there because it is so beautiful until I saw this. Involuntary quarantines

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      Brandon Smith August 18, 2021 at 12:43 am

      The governor can sign whatever he wants, it’s the people of Tennessee that will decide what laws get enforced and what laws are ignored.

    • Chris August 18, 2021 at 11:17 am

      I live in TN now for past two years (family reasons). Previously in MT for 12 years. Don’t believe everything you read – investigate.

  • californiawoman August 18, 2021 at 3:28 pm

    @Chris. Don’t believe everything you read. Here is the actual executive order which is more accurate than a reporter’s version which is totally inaccurate. Go deeper in your research.

    “Discretion to utilize National Guard and State Guard members in connection with certain health care and emergency services operations.”
    “Telephone assessments for involuntary commitment cases are permitted.”
    “Temporary quarantine and isolation facilities may be constructed.”

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