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Grinding Down Into Deflation: The National Debt Disaster No One Is Talking About

December 8, 2023

This article was written by Brandon Smith and originally published at Birch Gold Group

Several years ago I predicted that the US would ultimately be confronted with the debilitating economic conundrum of stagflation, something which the nation had not seen since the 1970s. I suggested that stagflation would become a household word again and that the majority of American concerns would revolve around rising prices coupled with stagnant wages and falling production. In 2018 in my article ‘Stagflationary Crisis: USA’s Ongoing Collapse, Understanding The Cause’ I noted:

“Years ago there was a rather idiotic battle between financial analysts over what the end result of the Fed’s massive stimulus measures would be. One side argued that deflation would be the outcome and that no amount of Fed printing would overtake the vast black hole of debt conjured by the derivatives implosion. The other side argued that the Fed would continue to print perpetually, resorting to QE4 or possibly “QE infinity” and negative interest rates as a means to stave off a market crash for decades (like Japan) while at the same time initiating a Weimar-style inflationary bonanza.

Both sides were wrong because they refused to acknowledge the third option – stagflation.”

The process of stagflation is difficult to track because there are multiple paths that it can take, many of them largely dependent on the whims of the central bank and its policy decisions. All we can really do is look back at the limited number of historic  examples and guess at what will happen next. In the 1970s, stagflation nearly crushed the country with inflation rising by 7% to over 14% per year for a decade while the general public eventually faced high unemployment.

When I hear Zennials complain about being born into the “worst economy ever,” I have to laugh because they really have no clue. The 1970s was FAR worse in terms of erosion of buying power as well as overall poverty. If you look at film footage and photos of urban areas from LA to NY to Philadelphia during that time, many parts of these cities looked like bombed out war zones. The country was truly on the edge of disaster.

In the early 1980s, the Federal Reserve jacked interest rates up to over 20% – This stopped the inflation crisis but triggered a deflationary plunge that would sit like a giant boulder on the chest of the American consumer and small business owners for years to come. My own grandfather lost millions in his trucking and freight company during the rate spike; many people lost their businesses and homes.

In other words, as bad as the situation is now, we haven’t seen anything yet. Of course, we are quickly moving towards similar conditions and there is one thing we have today that the 1970s didn’t: A massive snowballing national debt.

Currently, the US national debt is $33.8 trillion and has a 120% debt-to-GDP ratio. In a single month (October) the US added over $600 billion to the debt, and at the current pace the total official debt will hit over $41 trillion in one year. The speed of this accumulation is frightening. To put this in perspective, the Obama Administration and the Federal Reserve added around $9 trillion to the debt in 8 years during the corporate bailouts. Under Joe Biden, this is set to happen in a little over 1 year.

How is this happening?

As I have noted in the past, the US economy has stacked so much fiat and so much debt that any deviation in interest rates is going cause huge ripple effects. We don’t even need to hit the 20% interest rates of the early 1980s – A constant rate of near 6% is enough to cause debt to skyrocket. Then there is the problem of “compounding interest.” The US government is borrowing money to make interest payments, but it also borrows to roll over the principal payments, and it borrows still more to fund the general spending which is in excess of taxes collected (deficit spending).

At higher interest-rate levels, borrowing enters a destructive spiral. There’s interest payments on debt, which was itself borrowed to make interest payments on debt. To put it in simple terms, it’s a bit like a broke person taking on a stack of new credit cards to make the interest payments on a stack of old credit cards. It’s financial suicide.

Eventually the avalanche of debt will stall inflation but it will also pop multiple asset bubbles cross numerous market sectors and trigger a deflationary crisis. We are already seeing this trend with a crash in manufacturing as well as frozen wages. We are seeing it in the freight industry, with layoffs and bankruptcies piling up in a shocking downturn indicating impending recession. Not to mention US home sales have plunged to a 13 year low as prices continue to rise.

These are all red flags of an impending deflation event that WILL lead to large scale job losses, likely within the next year. It would seem the magic of covid stimulus measures is finally fading away and we are beginning to see the real economy underneath.

All the negative news has led to a spike in stock markets recently. Why? Because bad news is good news for equities. The expectation among investors is that the Fed is poised to cut rates or return swiftly to QE. This is not going to happen, at least not anytime soon. The Fed, I believe, wants a crash. After addicting markets to easy money for over a decade, the central bankers know EXACTLY what will happen as they continue to cut off the drug supply.

I suspect we are about to see a major change in the behavior of the economy going into 2024. The stagflation phase is nearly over. The discussion around dinner tables across America will turn to the exploding national debt, and debt in general. The big debate will once again turn to this: Will the Fed keep rates steady, risking deflationary implosion and debt default, or, will they cut rates, return to stimulus to pay the debt and risk double digit inflation?

These are the two choices in front of us as debt overwhelms the system.


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  • Rodster December 8, 2023 at 11:34 am

    “Eventually the avalanche of debt will stall inflation but it will also pop multiple asset bubbles cross numerous market sectors and trigger a deflationary crisis.”

    I have been saying pretty much the same thing to those I have a discussion with, about the economy. Here in Florida, I am seeing an uptick in people living out of their cars. I know of a 20 something who is renting a one bedroom apt in Port Charlotte for well over $2000 a month and he’s an assistant mgr for a supermarket chain. His salary with bonuses is pretty good but he finds himself living paycheck to paycheck.

    New car prices are now out of reach for the average person unless they want to take out a 6-10 year loan. Example? A Honda Accord now costs on average 35-40K. A 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer now costs well over $100K. I remember back in the mid 80’s, that car was selling for $14-15K.

    Food prices continue to tick higher. Red Lobster had to pull their $20 all you can eat shrimp promo because they didn’t expect such a demand by shoppers who are looking for deals. SHOCKER! That’s code for, people are looking to save a buck because the prices of everything has gone up way too high.

    As many here know, this is all unsustainable and eventually people won’t be afford to buy things. I suspect that deflation would begin to occur and that’s not good for a debt based system where those in charge are looking to pay off their debts with cheaper money. This is all heading for a meg-ton collapse and that as Brandon has point out numerous times is what the Globalists want, so as to reset the system.

  • Alan December 8, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    When you say tangible assets are good to have, do you mean real-estate too? Assuming it’s paid off, or with some debt, but more than 20% equity?

    I ask because American economy is hugely dependent on housing. I cannot imagine ever that powers that be would let deflation take hold in real estate, because that would cause the entire economy to collapse to the point of “emergency” where say 100 trillion is printed in a year. Even if they wanted to, populist action would override them I think, in ways that may or may not be constitutional, but I don’t think anyone would care.

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      Brandon Smith December 8, 2023 at 3:50 pm

      Why do you think they don’t want a collapse? They’ve done it before, why wouldn’t they do it again?

      • Linda December 12, 2023 at 7:39 pm

        I suspect that they want a crash to try and bring in CBDC’s.

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          Brandon Smith December 12, 2023 at 10:23 pm

          Among other things…

    • Nemo December 19, 2023 at 6:36 am

      Crashes concentrate wealth into the hands of those that have the most at the time, because they afford to endure and then buy everything at a discount from all of the people in debt losing everything.

      Also, did you not see what they did with COVID? They created rules that only allowed commerce to take place in the mega retailers that had the space and money to absorb the brunt of those rules. So, everyone (and their newly printed handout money) was funneled into these privileged mega-businesses. It wasn’t just a power play to remove our freedom. It was also a grand redistribution of wealth to the already wealthy.

      Our system looks more and more like a few oligarchs building a feudal system, and they’ve used our own eagerness to take on debt for pleasure and luxury to set the trap for our enslavement.

  • Brent December 8, 2023 at 4:00 pm

    I am sure you could be right. And really it should happen before the election next year.
    I personally think that there may be option 3. Which is World war 3. EMP’s or a major hack, to destroy the population. Then china will come here on a humanitarian mission to help flailing America, while at the same time seizing assets.
    We are using up all our military assets so that we cannot defend ourselves. In other words, a bad day for America.
    If this is an option, i think it would most likely also happen before the main election as i just don’t see the leftists choosing to loose power again to DJT or someone else that they do not install.
    Is this too extreme of an option?

    • Gotheart December 9, 2023 at 9:06 am

      Using up our military assets. Good point.

    • Janis December 11, 2023 at 12:20 pm

      China is in really bad shape and it doesn’t look as if they will be able to “help” anyone. The CCP appears to be on the verge of collapse and their economy is crashing.

      • Brent December 12, 2023 at 4:21 pm

        But China has been sending military age young men here for a while. They already have their army inside our borders. They own all our deep sea ports, they own all our railroads. They have been stockpiling gold, wheat, etc. for a while. They know that their existence depends upon our resources. So if they really get to a point that they will fail, then that is when the failure in America is most likely to occur. The globalists need America to fall, and when i say America, i mean the middle class. We are all that stands in the way.

    • Serge December 11, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      “We are using up all our military assets so that we cannot defend ourselves. In other words, a bad day for America.” (same situation in Europe…).
      Indeed, very, very good point.

      Think about it: Ukraine, and curently, the new war – by design! – in the Middle East; i.e. Israel vs Hamas in Gaza (and the Palestinians).
      When you consider that billions and billions of dollars worth of weapons have been sent by the Biden administration to Ukraine and Israel to win their “defensive war” – without any concrete military or political results in their favor – one can only wonder about the real goals and/or outcomes of this “aid” or “support”.
      Not to mention the terrible damage to the U.S economy – but not only! – linked to certain national, federal and global policies during the recent “health crisis”..

    • Gauntlet33 December 11, 2023 at 12:59 pm

      First, another great article Brandon.
      Brent, I’ve heard that World War 3 against the US by Russia and China is a possibility now that our military might has been used up in a big way. Also, you mentioned an EMP or major hack…so see this summary of the movie “Leave the World Behind” where the executive producers of the movie are the Obamas and they use foreshadowing, or if you prefer “predictive programming” to show how it might happen. I’m always way too early on timing, so I’ll say after the election for on any attack, especially since I believe the globalists want Trump to be elected as it furthers their goal of portraying the US as a banana republic as it’s seeming more and more that the only “bananas” we produce are our 70% service / retail / consumer economy, and as much as I hate FJB, Trump is similarly a laughing stock of the world with his constant “tweeting” like a teenage girl and the kabuki theater of the criminal indictments and prosecutions he faces. So in case you’re wondering, yes, Trump (Mr. Operation “Vaccine” Warp Speed”) will win the election, but he’s the right wing of the same deep state bird, so I wouldn’t have any positive expectations from it. I further expect the dollar to collapse before we face any direct military conflict, making it even more difficult for the US to buy the resources and manpower labor it would need to produce counter-offensive weapons. And what civilian would want to fight in battle if their pay was worth near zero?

      • Brent December 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm

        I am not sure exactly what side DJT is on. I agree that he has an ego the size of Jupiter and still wants to accept credit for the jab. The globalists don’t like DJT, but they definitely would use him to create chaos they are looking for to bring the top crashing down on us. They are going to convict him on these charges hoping that maga will cause violence. This will allow them to supercharge a response that would make J6 look like a day at kindergarten.
        The main goal again i believe is to destroy America. In order to bring about their global dictatorship. JB is owned by the CCP and all the left. BHO is owned by Islam. Both of which want the destruction of this country.

        • Linda December 13, 2023 at 12:54 am

          I actually believe that Trump will prove that the 2020 election was stolen when he goes to trial in March and there will be a rerun of the US 2020 election.

        • Gauntlet33 December 13, 2023 at 12:23 pm

          Hey Brent, I hear you on Trump and the rest, but I see things happening differently. Real Conservatives are peaceful by nature, and I think the Globalists are aware of that, so having Biden win, expecting Republican voters to riot won’t happen IMO, and I further think that they know they wouldn’t be able to fake it either like they did on Jan. 6 with the FBI being involved.
          On the other hand, if Trump wins, then it sets up the US to look like any other banana republic who’s election results are highly contended, especially if the Soros crowd pays off Democrat Leftists (who we already know are the rioting type through BLM, etc.) to cause chaos. And displaying any burnings and lootings on international TV would be the start of the dollar domino collapse. [FYI, I further believe that even the Biden family being an international joke is all intentional to knock the luster off the dollar.] So because I believe that total control is what they want, the best way to get there (besides perhaps the brainwashing / psychological mind control that they’ve been doing) is through financial control, and I would therefore agree that their top goal is to destroy the dollar to wipe out the middle class resistance, and that means destroying America.

          • kal kal December 17, 2023 at 9:20 pm

            it would seem that we are already a third world banana “dictatorship” republic.

  • Roundball Shaman December 8, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    “… the majority of American concerns would revolve around rising prices coupled with stagnant wages and falling production.”
    This is the final stage of a once-functioning economic and social system. Keep raising prices for people who can’t afford it. And people then lose incentive to produce because they see their personal lifestyle failing. And corporations close facilities in order to boost profits for shareholders and further obscenely compensate their top executives.
    Sort of like picking the Thanksgiving turkey carcass clean by the privileged to make such they get it all and there is nothing left for anyone else. Classic selfish psychopath behavior justified by a self-reinforcing delusion of the predators believing they deserve this and have a right to do such things. And no empathy for others.
    “The 1970s was FAR worse in terms of erosion of buying power as well as overall poverty. If you look at film footage and photos of urban areas from LA to NY to Philadelphia during that time, many parts of these cities looked like bombed out war zones. The country was truly on the edge of disaster.”
    The 1970s were truly an ugly period. The temporary American prosperity of post World War 2 was quickly evaporating as American industries were being off-shored and millions of Americans began to lose stable, family-supporting jobs. The pathetic Southeast Asian war was still going on in which tens of thousands of young Americans perished for no good reason. Even popular music was bad ranging from soft-rock pablum to angry, hard-edged metal rock which grated the ears and tortured the soul. The great Motown music of the 1960s was over and was in the process of being replaced by emerging street thug (c)rap music which still rules today in many vehicles who blast that stuff for miles and into the next county. With poison lyrics and no musical soul.
    “The stagflation phase is nearly over. The discussion around dinner tables across America will turn to the exploding national debt…”
    The discussion around the dinner table will be a lot more personal and immediate than governmental budget and payment crises. The family will talk about how they just got laid off… and they have no money to pay the mortgage or rent… and they have to quit eating meat not because some idiot globalist says so but because they can’t afford meat any more. It will be about trying to keep each other’s spirits up and away from despondence as financial and social pressures eat away at one’s peace of mind and the faith one might have in a better future. It will be about how to care for family members who were foolish enough to put poison in their veins because they were told to do so or some phony medical authority convinced them to abandon their own better judgment.
    It will be about wondering what next year’s holiday season might look like… and that everyone decided it would be better not to gift each other next time around. Because that money will be needed to pay for noodle soup and crackers for dinner.
    The Race To The Bottom continues at pace. And there will be no Stagflation in THAT race to the bottom if things stay on the same trajectory they are now. Speedily on its way at present.
    ‘What do you want for Christmas this year, Daddy?’
    ‘I wish the same for everyone, sweetie. A big hug… and say a prayer from your heart. No matter what happens around us in these days… our Faith in something… Someone much greater than These Times won’t ever let us perish…’.

  • drhooves December 8, 2023 at 6:20 pm

    The economy shifting from stagflation to deflation is part of the end of two major influences – the American Empire, and the era of cheap energy. In the 1970s, the U.S. was still able to coast through much of the economic issues with “capital” left over from the 1950s and 1960s. There was slack and resilience in the system. That’s all been consumed now, and our infrastructure, supply chains, and most businesses are built on a much more fragile framework of interdependencies.

    There’s no way to predict exactly how it all breaks down, but as multiple systems reach critical mass and fail, the ripple effect will be all consuming. Past history shows us the collapse of civilizations is usually drawn out over centuries, and perhaps that will happen for us. But it appears to me that the stage is set for a much shorter and violent crash. The globalists appear desperate to crash and reset the system, and population reduction looms large as a “solution” and outcome they’re shooting for….

  • Sir Wm December 10, 2023 at 12:04 pm

    Really… to whom do we owe this interest on our Nat’l debt and why?
    Do not we owe this funny (fiat) currency to ourselves??? What evil!!

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      Brandon Smith December 10, 2023 at 12:50 pm

      Mostly to foreign creditors.

    • kal kal December 17, 2023 at 9:22 pm

      The largest holders of US debt are #1 China, #2 Japan, #3 Germany and down the line the corporation known as the FED.

  • Thomasthethomas December 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm

    I think you didn’t mention something even worse and diabolical. That it’s being done on PURPOSE.

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      Brandon Smith December 10, 2023 at 12:51 pm

      I did mention that, actually.

      • Thomasthethomas December 11, 2023 at 1:11 am

        The crash but not stagflation. 😉

  • naturelover December 10, 2023 at 8:23 pm

    Regarding your suggestion during the upcoming deflation/crash to invest in hard physical assists such as precious metals, I agree. I’ve read elsewhere not to put your wealth all in one basket. So is land/real estate ok as long as you can keep it for 10-15 years? I figure it will go down in value during deflation, so will need to be able to wait thru the deflationary period. Any other hard assets that you recommend?

    • Gauntlet33 December 11, 2023 at 1:07 pm

      Naturelover, I know you weren’t asking me, but I personally think that investing in any real estate should only be done if it’s 100% paid off. Reason: any mortgage interest rate that is re-valued to match inflation could wipe you out.

      • naturelover December 11, 2023 at 8:26 pm

        Thanks! good point. If I invest in real estate/land it would be cash only.

      • Brent December 14, 2023 at 4:05 pm

        Gauntlet33, They can still wipe you out even if you own it out right. The SEC is now starting to formulate a plan to dictate what you can and cannot do on your land. It is called the NAC, National Asset Corporation. It will monitor your carbon footprint. And not only the carbon foot print of corporations, but you as an individual. If you are not carbon neutral, you will be charged a carbon tax. this will be done on an individual level. Rich will pay their side easily, but again, the middle class will take the hit. They want to stop farming, ranching, etc.
        The SEC plan is in public comment now and can be implemented on Jan. 2, 2024. The treasurer for Utah is fighting against this now. He needs help. This is not going thru congress. The SEC and Dept of Agriculture will enforce it. I know they will have a fight to make it work, but it goes to show you that even if you own your property, the goal is still, you will own nothing and be happy at the end of a gun.

        • Gauntlet33 December 15, 2023 at 10:14 am

          Hey Brent,
          Yeah, my other worry is that they can try to force you to lose your home by also having the property taxes be paid with hyperinflated dollars so if it used to be say $5k per year, that becomes say $5 million per year in taxes. You can only plan for so much, and I’m hoping they don’t go down that path as it could even wipe out the current mega-millionaires / billionaires.
          Also, even the SEC’s current plan to tax unrealized gains could wipe us all out, but I think that the govt will either stop it now, or people will sue and reverse it after it’s passed and enforced. Either way, I’ve determined that I’m not being pushed out by a Sheriff, even if he has a Court order for failure to pay. That’s my line.
          I hadn’t heard of the National Asset Corporation or any specific restrictions on land, but I’ve heard for a few years now from Dr. Vernon Coleman that they’ll monitor our “carbon footprints” (though once we win, we’ll give them a “footprint” or our own when we stamp / stomp out this communist slime.)
          So I’m aware that they’ll attempt to charge a tax if we’re not carbon neutral. I’ve theorized that’s the reason for Bill Gates owning millions of acres of unused, arable land — keeps people from farming there and at the same time gives him the carbon credits to do what he wants. So even the small time farmer who owns 20 acres of land would theoretically be wiped out with carbon taxes because even 20 acres would be nowhere near enough to offset one’s carbon footprint.
          In the end, we can only ask of ourselves what we can do, and buying up thousands of acres of land is impossible for all but the .1%, so that’s not a workable plan.
          Anyway, I’m optimistic that they’ll get lots of pushback as millionaires throughout the US will not sit back and let their mansions be taken from them. They will hire their attorneys who will fight in court and appeal if they don’t win.
          And if you’re still reading, here’s a movie trailer clip for “Civil War” with a really grim feel.
          We’re living in the most interesting times.

  • Covington December 11, 2023 at 1:21 am

    the US added over $600 billion to the debt, and at the current pace the total official debt will hit over $41 trillion in one year.
    brandon, I have been following you since about the time of the ’07 or ’08 crisisi. The 18th of September the US national debt hit 33 trillion. On the 18th of DECEMBER we we will hit 34 trillion. Where do you get 41 trillion? A trillion in 100 days is still asstonishong but 41 trillion? Something is wrong with the math here. Anf BTW you are correct. This is now becoming the ” law of large numbers”.

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      Brandon Smith December 11, 2023 at 10:41 am

      We added $600 billion in a single month (October). At the current pace that’s over $1 trillion every two months.

  • Covington December 11, 2023 at 1:39 am

    And this just pisses me off. Wr have a new speakeaker in the house. But, they still haveven’t passed the remaining appropriatioms bills and theu are going home on the 14th or 15th of December. The bpttom is falling out of the economy because of the spending from the government. Doods! Get a frighin clue. We are in crisis. Your constituants don’t want to see you home. They need to stay in Washington till this is solved. BTW. You guys in Montana you have an eccelemt rep. Mat Rosemdale is a fighter. Hats off to you for electing him.

    • Amuzed_Traveler December 12, 2023 at 1:18 pm

      Congress critters aren’t going to solve any of these problems

  • Theus December 11, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    Once again a great Article. Does know about Nomi Prins? Saw her on brief video regarding The End I’df the Dollar Game. Also, US Digital Dollar will be fully in place by July 2024 doing away with physical currency. Is there any truth of what she saying, “that Digital FedNow System will replace physical Currency” and “anyone with $2,500 in savings and stock.” “ Must a t now before it’s to late”. Brandon, do you anything about what she mentioned of January 19,2024 and the end physical currency with FedNow Digital Dollar?

  • Linda December 12, 2023 at 7:44 pm

    I just had a look at the Federal government current expenditures: Interest payments (A091RC1Q027SBEA) chart and the debt repayments are currently at 981.305……I suspect the fireworks will start when the debt repayments exceed 1 Trillion….

  • Luke December 13, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    —Very interesting take. It actually might be the most optimistic one too. At least this is more of a slow grind if I am understanding correctly. I lost patience after the election heist (not a major Trump guy) and thought best if we imploded overnight.
    —That probably wouldn’t be too good now that I think about it. Anything that forced into survival (prepper) more aside from a hurricane or blizzard is no good. While I am prepared far more than the average Joe I do not want to see that plan in action. I ain’t worried about me, it’s everyone else.
    —Am hoping a slower process may allow us to adjust better. Maybe even get better people in office too. That’s definitely a long shot but the zeitgeist is turning on FJB it seems. Not sure it will be enough to overcome the bullshit though.

    Not sure if you read John Carter but he released this one today. Also has a terrific one called “Bud Light Military.” This is not Musk worship but I have come to respect the man. It’s mainly for what he has recently said about humans having more babies. Anyone who is pro human has got me. And not I’m not necessarily anti abortion either especially if democrats are doing it to themselves (joking). In this piece JC also describes the enemy and its intentions quite brilliantly. He’s a fantastic writer. Hey I plug you too buddy lol 😉

  • Linda December 13, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    Musk / Trump are controlled opposition.

    • Luke December 13, 2023 at 9:29 pm

      I wonder Linda if the people that use that mantra frequently if they aren’t “controlled opposition.” I suspect they are but unlike Musk and Trump I doubt they know it. It has recently come to my attention that one has to put their faith in something. We are not exactly swimming in options. I’m for anything that throws sand into the gears of the system. And both of these men do. In fact, it would be the ONLY reason I would vote for Trump.

    • AL December 14, 2023 at 10:59 am

      Linda, while I get your point and agree there is much more going on with all of these highly promoted figures, I will submit that Musk is a gov’t contractor posing as a private business. That goes for Bezos and others like them.

      Trump was being groomed for the public eye way back when he had that TV show and his job is to continue the massive political divide. To me it’s not a big surprise that Trump is hours away from jail but manages to never quite put on the orange suit. Until the establishment has no further use for him.

      • Luke December 14, 2023 at 6:36 pm

        @Al One of the most alarming events that could occur would be if Trump is reseated without much hassle. Trump Derangement is quite real. The reasons behind it are not. However I wouldn’t be surprised to see TPTB let him in for military recruitment alone. Just a thought.

        Until we have a candid conversation about all the “dual citizens” (from China 😉) that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government and institutions nothing is getting solved. It’s been a real eye opener for me last couple of months seeing conservatives of all stripes circling the wagons. Leftists and Muslims had these dual citizens on the run for a short time. So they turned to their manipulated fools and traitors on the right to at least keep those sheep on the plantation. IMHO we should have pounced. Put the media in fear and see our chances rise. This is my solution to avoid collapse. I don’t know that’s possible however.

        It’s been a hard lesson for me. I haven’t completely soured on every conservative pundit/politician but a good many of them. But I have lost all trust. Sorta Holding out hope that maybe they are playing 5D chess. No I’m not naive but as I told Linda we are not exactly swimming in options.

        Here is a 1 min video clip of the dual citizen issue. Couple points: If this really was Chinese Citizens or Muslims conservatives would be up in arms. I have not verified the claims but would bet my ass it’s true. It would not be hard to debunk that’s for damn sure. I got a feeling what you are seeing in this vid has been replicated in all of our high level govt/ institutions. Would bet my ass on that too.

        And here’s why our Commie, Muslim, etc issues are NOT going away. In fact they have only gotten worse. It’s being caused on purpose. The aforementioned groups including the Commie are nothing but a tool. A means to an end; nothing more.

      • Gauntlet33 December 15, 2023 at 10:40 am

        Yes, I totally agree that Bezos, Musk, Sergey Brin, and all the other CEOs of the MAJOR firms are not owners / inventors of the companies, but rather gov’t contractors / actors posing as private businesses. Gates did not start MSFT on a shoestring budget and wits as the story goes. He is a Rockefeller and was funded by them. I do believe they get to enjoy their salaries, but at the end of the day, they themselves are owned and must do what the trillionaire deep state class tells them to do. I think John McAfee rebelled and that’s why they offed him.
        Luke, I’m skeptical of anyone who has a big following and I’ll say publicly that many who are the supposed opposition are in fact the “controlled opposition” that 1984 warned about. I’ve said it before and I hope I’m wrong, but I believe that Andy Jones, Joe Rogan, likely Icke, etc. are that. Why? They are too big and would’ve been taken out. And if you don’t believe me, then why are there pics of them doing the “devil horns”? Same with Trump. That’s my confirmation.
        Getting back to AL’s point, Trump was groomed for a few decades as his promoters knew that people vote for familiarity. It’s a popularity contest. And AL said it perfectly that “Trump is hours away from jail but manages to never quite put on the orange suit.” It’s all an act and he knows it. Anyone of us would have a heart attack if we were faced with these federal felony charges. Not Trump. Does he has balls of steel? No. He knows it’s all an act. Same with Jones. His trial for defamation for the Sandy Hook event was meant to portray that he’s opposition and his $4.1 million verdict is a sham.
        And I would say the same for Biden in a similar but different way. We all here know he’s the deep state’s puppet, but it’s no accident IMO that he and his son’s dealings have been “leaked”. They were leaked because the deep state wanted them to be leaked to continue the kabuki theatre drama for the masses to get all riled up between choosing sides of Red v. Blue. Why? because it furthers their chaos agenda to lead to the One World Government we know they want and they can’t get there if individual nations are strong. No, they need to topple all governments to have one rise. I think they’ll do so in phases, such as the traditionally Western Capitalist (now crumbling) nations v. the traditional communist block nations (China, Russia) (in which other BRICS nations will be added) having competing financial and trading systems, but that’s their playbook.

  • Luke December 15, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    @Gauntlet33….am not arguing about Trump. He remains an enigma to me and I do not trust him. I do understand the term “controlled opposition” and that it does happen. I just think the term gets bantered around too much. I am not a believer that everything is controlled. Plans are laid but often go to hell. I firmly believe the Globalists thought kicking Russia’s ass would be a slam dunk. Not so much with the Ukrainian Army but the almighty sanctions would be the straw that broke the bear’s back.

    Make no mistake, this really screws up their multiple prong plan for world domination. One must remember just how close they were to seeing it through. Russia and China have thrown a giant wrench into the machine. They are not going quietly. If Russia would have cracked as intended I am not sure anything could have stopped them.

    Meanwhile the domestic version of Agenda 2030 rolls on full speed ahead. They are deliberately diluting the gene pool in ALL Western Nations. Little doubt in mind its part of the take over. However they really needed to have the foreign power situation secured and they don’t. This does NOT mean they won’t eventually negotiate with R&C in order to bring a soft landing for themselves. Our nuke arsenal provides plenty of leverage. It’s inevitable that things will break here (esp financially) and when that happens they will haul ass and watch the die off happen. This is why I really liked hearing Brandon’s article. Am hoping we degrade slower as opposed to very fast. I think West elites wanted to pull the plug manually but not so sure they can with China & Russia patrolling the waters as formidable adversaries.

    As for that video it should be our Litmus Test as to how we rate politicians and media. If you have no problem with people who have pledged loyalty to another nation in the highest levels of gov and institutions then it is you who have the problem. IMO this is how we need to treat them all because it is the ONLY way this gets attention. I would love to ask DT that question.

    Don’t be afraid to work with people you consider our enemy. Like us, they are pawns in this unfortunate scheme as well. We get arrested and ruined, they don’t ;). Seems to me wars are always won by those who can build broad coalitions. Take people, groups, nations that have little in common and get them to unite behind defeating the enemy.

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