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Joe Rogan Criticizes The Harsh Tactics Of ICE: Here’s Why He’s Wrong

October 16, 2025 6 Comments

By Brandon Smith

There is one ever-pervasive and dangerous downside to the idea of the “big political tent” – The idea that all groups in the tent are equally entitled to dictate the terms within the tent. This is rarely the case.

In its weakest form, the big tent is an all encompassing movement reliant on temporary alliances between largely disconnected groups. It’s a gentleman’s agreement to stop the backbiting for a time so that a greater threat can be defeated. The problem is, some members of the big tent are more dedicated to the cause than others, and some simply don’t have the stomach to do what is necessary.

The reasons for their apprehension vary. Some people worry incessantly about optics, because true national reform is not as elegant and pure as they imagine it will be.  Preserving the heritage of a nation requires everyone to be on the same page to a point, and when a large contingent of people prefer total chaos it’s naive to think that a solution can be achieved without force.

For example, when around 25% of the country is rabidly obsessed with the Marxist deconstruction of the west, is a peaceful solution possible? So far, any action we take to reverse the efforts of leftist zealots has been met with widespread lies, instigation, sabotage, mob violence, political corruption and attempted assassination.

We have seen what happens when leftists are in power. We don’t have to guess anymore what life would be like under their thumb. We know.  Government sponsored mass censorship, vast indoctrination programs through media and entertainment, tyrannical efforts to force behaviors and socially engineer compliance, the ideological grooming of children, threats against people’s jobs, families and freedoms.

The progressive movement is largely single minded – They are a hive that acts solely for the advancement of the group. They have a limited understanding of reality, no moral compass, no guilt, no shame, no sense of principles or honor, no doubts that they are correct in their beliefs and they are completely dedicated to winning no matter the cost. They will blindly follow the demands of their gatekeepers without question.

On the bright side, woke ideology has been crushed when it comes to the battleground of public debate. They can’t win in a fair fight, which is why they assassinated Charlie Kirk and then cheered joyously over his corpse. They had an ecstatic experience because deep down they know they are losing the social discourse.

Kirk’s murder was the moment they had been craving; leftists threw the chessboard into the dirt and screamed like sociopathic children: “We will win because the rules don’t apply to us…”

As I’ve been saying for years, any group that opposes the woke mob will fail in the end if they can’t set aside the delusion that this situation is merely a disagreement between countrymen. It’s not. This is a war between utterly disparate enemies with completely different moral positions.

Diplomacy is a pipe dream and playing nice is a death sentence. It’s time to stop pretending that our national relationship can be mended. It’s over. In fact, it was over many years ago and only now are conservatives actually beginning to fight back. We’re done worrying about political optics. Either we change things dramatically right now, or we’ll never get another chance.

Some centrists, libertarians and moderate liberals are not as thick-skinned, though. When they joined the “big tent” they must have thought that Donald Trump securing the election was the final prize and that everything else would fall into place naturally. The election is a side note to the greater conflict taking place. It delays the inevitable melee but it doesn’t necessarily prevent it.

Trump is a short term stop-gap and if leftists are lucky the worst they will ever see is some ICE agents tackling illegals or the National Guard patrolling the ghetto because Democrat city leaders won’t police or prosecute properly. They have no clue what is coming if average conservatives decide to take matters into their own hands. In other words, Trump is being nice and leftists are oblivious.

The deportation of illegal immigrants is one subject that motivated the majority of Americans to stand against the progressive left and their globalist patrons. Democrat’s were flooding the US with untold millions of illegal migrants on top of the millions that had already accumulated over the course of the past few decades. And guess what?  Nearly half of  Latino voters support deportations, too.

However, some centrists like Joe Rogan are getting cold feet over the situation. He argues that ICE operations are going too far and that arresting non-criminals and illegals present in the country for 20 years is a “horrific look”.

This is where the big tent idea has its drawbacks. Conservative movements often fail to root out radical leftists because they feel the need to appeal to pie-in-the-sky centrist notions of diplomacy and fairness. These are people that worry about negative media response and cracks in the federation of anti-woke groups. They’re always thinking about the next election and not what we need to do right now, thus, nothing ever gets done.

Let’s be honest, conservatives created the tent and we should run it.  We were fighting the far-left PC crowd for years while most everyone else called us “conspiracy theorists”.  People like Rogan jumped on the bandwagon much later.  We’ve allowed the Overton Window to be shifted to the radical left, but it’s not because of leftists.  It’s because of centrists who don’t want to get their hands dirty.  We’re always trying to make them happy.  Centrists fear being accused of authoritarianism more than anything and the political left knows it.

Rogan is right more often than not, but he’s completely wrong on the issue of ICE arrests. An illegal that has been living in the US for 20 years should be at the TOP of the list for deportation. They have been feeding off the US economy, taking jobs that should have gone to Americans, and they’ve been doing it for a painfully long time.

They indirectly help Democrats to rig voting districts and the Electoral College by inflating census numbers. Around 60% of them tap into welfare subsidies and healthcare programs that cost US taxpayers billions. They eat up the housing market, helping to inflate home prices and rental costs. They drive down wages for legal citizens by working for 30% less.

The biggest insult, though, is that the people Rogan is talking about have had 20 years or more to become a naturalized citizen and they chose not to. They were either too lazy or their loyalties remain with their country of origin. Why should we give them special treatment?

In terms of the optics of the arrests, illegals are criminals. All of them. Trump never promised to only arrest migrants that commit crimes after they cross the border. He promised the opposite. This idea was perpetuated by Democrat leaders who were trying to control the debate. No, all illegals need to go. Not only those that leftists and centrists deem to be non-threats at the moment, the law must apply to all of them equally.

If the concern is “brutality”, then I have to say that ICE Is going easy on these criminals. Easier than I would, at any rate.

Don’t forget that deportation raids and aggressive arrests would not be needed if migrants would simply self deport. Around 1.6 million have already done this; they are the smart ones. Furthermore, has Rogan considered the possibility that being harsh with deportations today inspires more self-deportations and less violence in the future? In other words, we get ugly right now so that we don’t have to get ugly tomorrow.

I have no sympathy for illegals who defy deportation after years of exploiting the system, refusing to work for naturalized citizenship, refusing to assimilate and even getting violent when they’re caught.

I also have no sympathy for woke activists who try to interfere with perfectly lawful arrests. If they get their asses kicked in the process of sabotaging deportations, then all the better.

Illegal migrants do NOT have the same due process rights under federal law as native citizens. Due process for an illegal only requires that ICE verify that the person is a foreigner and that they do not have a proper visa or greencard. That’s it. No courts, no jury, no appeals, no playing games. They can be quickly booted, and this is a good thing.

It’s interesting to me that globalist propaganda has been so effective in brainwashing liberals and centrists that they continue to think that basic immigration laws common to most nations around the world are somehow draconian and ugly when applied in the US. Only the US gets this kind of criticism. Only American conservatives are called “monsters” for wanting secure borders and a country free from foreign invasion.

The US is not an “economic zone” open to the rest of the planet. It’s not a perpetual “melting pot”. We are not obligated to welcome the third world into our home. They’re not allowed to kick up their feet on our couch. They were not invited.

And, if they refuse to leave voluntarily, then yes, we get to beat them into submission and toss them back where they came from. Most Americans support this. We don’t care how it looks. We’re no longer concerned about the fears of centrists.

What are they going to do? Vote for the Democrats? Only to suffer through another 4 years of Biden-era cultural Marxism, worrying endlessly about being canceled from their jobs and their social media and their podcasts? Worrying endlessly if their kids are going to go to school only to be groomed by some woke circus freak teacher?

I think not. I think they will realize the stupidity of that kind of endeavor, set aside their pearl clutching and accept that the deportations being enforced today are EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers would have done if they were faced with a similar situation. It’s the centrists that have strayed from the spirit of our Republic, not conservatives.

 

 

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  • Naatok October 16, 2025 at 9:17 am

    I believe leftist policies on illegal immigration are, by design, pitting the occupants of ‘the big tent’, as you put it, against one another. The useful idiots on the left seem to have no clue what an absolute meat grinder they are being herded into by their ‘handlers’, and now I’m beginning to wonder if centrist personalities like Joe Rogan are just a clueless about where things are headed.

    The globalists WANT a blood-bath in the US in a bid to disarm the last bastion of the armed citizen. I believe conservatives understand that. I doubt that leftists do. They seem to be of the mind that their ‘handlers’ are on their side when nothing could be further from the truth. These idiots seem to think they will not be subject to the technocratic tyranny they are shilling for.

    Yeah, supporters of the October revolution in Russia thought the same, ’til the NKVD showed up at their doors as well as the doors of ‘undesirables’ they ratted out.

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      Brandon Smith October 16, 2025 at 1:04 pm

      At this stage the political left and the globalists are now the same entity – they are one. The left/right paradigm is over.

  • Wes October 16, 2025 at 9:48 am

    We the people should be using the same tactics on politicians.
    Government brought them in now their taking the out , can you see how masons work yet.
    They create a problem then after that turns to shit they come up with a fix and a hero to save the day. We the people are the army of America and if we don’t stand and take out all the mason trash this country is there’s for the final blow to America cause that’s what they have been planning on for the last hundred years. Albert pike strikes again.

    • Rodster October 16, 2025 at 11:24 am

      “We the people should be using the same tactics on politicians.”

      But that’s how it usually end, doesn’t it, with pitchforks and torches? Look at what happened in Nepal. The citizenry got tired of government corruption. They dragged government officials out in the streets, beat them to a pulp, then set the government building on fire.

      My guess is, that’s pretty much how it’s going to end here as well. The United States has Stage IV cancer. The Empire is in decline and the Leftists and Globalists as well as some of the RINO’s are pitting Americans against each other.

      The hatred between the Left and Right has become so toxic, the end result will be a bloody and violent Civil War. It’s not something I wish for but that’s how Republics tend to self destruct.

  • Rodster October 16, 2025 at 11:27 am

    Now just imagine Gavin “Gel Man” Newsom as POTUS. That’s his dream. He totally wrecked California with his liberal policies and he will bring them to the WH. The Left are salivating at the thought of him becoming the next Prez.

  • Greg B. October 16, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    The centrists simply need to go. If they can’t commit to any side, then they need to just stay out of the fight completely.

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