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Just want to comment on the value of relationships/ contacts in a community. We came to the Willamette Valley in Oregon in the 70s as back to the landers developing all the skills of food preservation, gardening, sewing and general homesteading skills. It’s not really feasible to pick up and move at this late date with everything is in place for economic collapse. Because we have had a business for so long here and are known in the community, it opens a lot of doors. I think relationships are really important of surviving what is coming.
Yes. There are only a few valid reasons for relocating and one of them is in the event that you have no community of like-minded people where you live. If you already have that, then it’s better to stay put. If you are surrounded by mask Nazis and there is no chance to organize, then it may be time to move to a new place.
Hi Joy,
We are in a similar boat here in Colorado. Been here a long time, successful small business owners, so many contacts, great community, but live at very high altitude, long tiring winters and crazy leftists in Denver/Boulder and neighboring Summit County. Really want to sell it all and move to lower, greener, more sane pastures. Aghhhhj ???!!!
Wyoming is not far from where you are now, and would be much more conservative and less likely to enforce new mandates or vaccine passports.
Definitely on our radar.
You’re living in a boat at very high altitude?
What is your opinion of Utah for relocation?
There are a lot of preppers in Utah, but then again, they are mostly Mormon. If you are part of the Mormon community or you have Mormon friends in the state then I would say yes, that is a good option. I know Mormons in Montana and they are all very nice people. That said, I have reservations about living in a community that is strictly one religious group which I am not a member of. I would be concerned about being treated as an outsider as a national collapse or crisis evolved and times get tough. Maybe some Mormons can chime in here if I am wrong on this.
When you were comparing Arizona and Texas, another advantage we have over Arizona besides availability of water would be preventing illegal immigration. We have a natural barrier between us and Mexico in the form of the Rio Grande. If we could lock that down it would make it harder for illegals to get in through our southern border. Arizona and the other border states have no such natural barrier, just open desert with a pitiful little fence to keep them out that can be defeated with bolt cutters. And knowing Biden he’ll probably have the wall that Trump was building torn down.
Agreed. Arizona has some good qualities and they are starting to show resistance to the covid lockdown mentality, but the close proximity to California and the wide open border problem make it less secure than Texas. Both states could reverse the border situation if they took control now, but Arizona will have a harder time.
Utah is hands down one of the most amazing states in the union. The LDS definitely runs the show, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s mostly dry as hell so water is an issue in most places I have been. Politically most likely akin to liberty and freedom, geographically and environmentally, defiantly harsh in areas. I’ll leave it to the Utah locals to answer the real deal questions.
Utah has a new governor, right? The last one was a problem child in terms of the lockdowns. But, the new one is his former Lt. Governor and is letting transexuals into school sports programs (men pretending to be women playing on women’s teams), so, that’s not a good sign.
Discussion will remain open until 7:45 pm Mountain Time.
One of the troubling things I am observing is the astronomical prices of land and housing increases I’m witnessing. Inflation, speculation, financialization, covid migration, you name it! Relocation is certainly becoming less obtainable for a growing community wanting to do so, very frustrating!
Yes, this is why I told people years ago to invest in rural land before the collapse begins. Inflation is going to continue for some time. Even when it stops, very few people are going to be willing to sell rural land. It will be more and more difficult to find property unless you end up WAY out in an area where you will have to build your own infrastructure. I think that raw land will be the next market to be bought up. But if you buy raw land with no water well or house, be prepared to do almost everything yourself. Contractors are backed up with work in my area for the next 18 months, and I imagine it’s the same in all other prime relocation spots.
Hey Brandon,
What do you think about West Virginia as a state to relocate to?
As I understand it West Virginia was surprisingly strict on the covid mandates, which is why I did not include them in my list. If anyone knows of any changes in that state in terms of the lockdown mentality give us an update.
Hi, Bee in WV here —
There’s basically Charleston, Morgantown, and “the County” (whatever rural area you live in). C and M are full of Karen’s who tremble at the thought of guns and covid. The County trembles at very little. I just learned yesterday that WV is one of a handful of states that allows handguns, even concealed carry, without permits. Rural areas are surprisingly laid back in general. Had a DNR (hunting) officer once tell my sister that he was fine with people hunting all year round for food but if out of area folks came to trespass and or poach, call him immediately. Likewise, the Gov. has mandated certain covid restrictions but rural establishments outside of big box stores are pretty lax. I was searching for my mask upon entering a large hardware store and the counter man just waved me in. Folks are friendly unless you give them reason not to be. They are generally respectful, helpful, and culturally lacking in nosiness. Invading privacy is a sin. Land, even with utilities and a livable house, is pretty cheap by nationwise standards. Downsides = rural education and health, especially mental health, services can be spotty although my little county seat has a great hospital. You have to have your own 4WD transportation to get around. And, if you want to read a lot or purchase anything that’s not pretty basic, you’re going to have to drive an hour or so or order online. The state motto is the
Latin for “Mountaineers always free.” I was born here and considered it my home till I graduated high school (in Charleston). Came back at 73 expecting to spend the rest of my life here. Have no regrets!
I agree! I used to live in Salem for about a year when I went to college. I got along fine with the locals because I took the time to talk to them and get to know them. Most of the other people at my school (formerly Salem-Teikyo University) never bothered to foster a relationship with them and remained alienated.
What are your thoughts on Hawaii while all this is going down?
Worse than California in terms of covid restrictions, and it’s an island state which makes it undesirable as a survival region. Maybe if you had a very nice sailboat and hidden caches and preprepared bugout locations.
Regardless of where you are, reach out to like minded individuals. Start meetups, do projects together, learn to work together. It will bring you real hope and community. You need it as a human and it will help pull you up when you are down. Unit !!!
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is Alt-Market.com down? I wanted to view past article and it shows its down…..
Yes, there is a potential problem that I am trying to get remedied. Hopefully after Easter weekend.